Financially Legal is a podcast for law firm CFOs dealing with financial aspects of the business of law. Host, Emery Wager, talks with law firm leaders, academics, business professionals and thought leaders to provide compelling and provocative insights at the intersection of finance, economics, and law.

67. The Power of Legal Case Management for Modern Law Firms

Posted by Emery Wager on October 10, 2025

Launching software from inside a law firm is a dream for many attorneys, but few ever make it a reality. In a recent episode of Financially Legal, host Emery Wager spoke with James Betzel, founder of Prima.law, about how he turned the daily frustrations of running an immigration practice into a modern cloud-based case management platform.

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66. Law Firm Partner Compensation Explained: Models, Trends, and Pitfalls

Posted by Emery Wager on August 28, 2025

Few topics spark as much debate in the legal industry as partner compensation. How firms compensate their partners influences not only individual incentives but also firm culture, collaboration, and ultimately, profitability.

In this episode of Financially Legal, Emery Wager sits down with Hugh Simons, former BCG consultant, law firm CEO, and prolific writer on law firm economics, to unpack the mechanics, challenges, and future of partner pay.

 

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65. The Ethics of Digital Disbursements for Law Firms

Posted by Emery Wager on July 23, 2025

Rules of Professional Conduct, ethics rules, and general regulations don’t seem to be keeping pace with technology, and nowhere is this clearer than in how law firms handle client funds. In this episode of Financially Legal, Emery Wager and Jayne Reardon explore how firms can transition from paper checks to digital disbursements without crossing ethical lines (and while actually improving client service and firm efficiency).

 

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64. How Law Firms Can Dispute (and win) Chargebacks

Posted by Emery Wager on June 3, 2025

Chargebacks are the credit card world’s version of a courtroom dispute, and for many law firms, they can be a frustrating and costly surprise. In this episode of Financially Legal, we break down the chargeback process, why it’s uniquely tricky for law firms, and what you can do to protect your revenue.

 

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63. Taming the IRS: A Lawyer's Guide to Tax Debt Resolution

Posted by Emery Wager on May 16, 2025

What do you do when you owe money to the most powerful collection agency in the world? In this episode of Financially Legal, I sat down with Stephen Weisberg, a tax attorney who helps people navigate IRS tax debt. We discussed what happens when lawyers, particularly partners in law firms, get behind on their taxes, why it’s more common than you might think, and what options exist to fix the situation.

 

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62. The Flat Fee Mindset with Brita Long

Posted by Emery Wager on March 12, 2025

How much time do you spend tracking your hours? What if you could increase your profitability, reduce stress, and provide better client service—all without billing another minute? The hourly billing model isn’t the only way to run a successful law firm. In this episode of Financially Legal, host Emery Wager sits down with Brita Long to explore the mindset shift required to transition to flat fee legal services.

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61. How AI Impacts Law Firm Profitability with Patrick Maddigan and Tim Sawyer of Faster Outcomes

Posted by Emery Wager on February 27, 2025

How much time are you wasting on repetitive tasks? What if you could significantly cut those hours, increasing your firm’s profitability? AI isn’t just a buzzword now—it’s a tool transforming the economics of running a law firm.

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60. Using Data to Provide Clients with Financial Transparency

Posted by Emery Wager on January 17, 2025

What’s this going to cost?

The eternal question that every client wants to know before signing your engagement agreement. Now, imagine being able to give a clear, confident answer even in the most complex cases. Providing this level of financial predictability isn’t just a dream; it’s achievable. 

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59. Simple Financial Strategies for Growing a Contingency Fee Law Firm

Posted by Emery Wager on January 3, 2025

In this Financially Legal episode, host Emery Wager sits down with Lem Garcia, founder of Lem Garcia Law, to explore how he grew his firm from humble beginnings to serving over 1,000 clients with a 20-person team. Lem shares his journey starting with Craigslist furniture and a modest office space to becoming a blueprint for aspiring law firm owners.

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Episode 58 - Cashflow for Law Firms

Posted by Emery Wager on November 26, 2024

In this Financially Legal episode, host Emery Wager talks with Matt Darner, founder of Collbox, to uncover practical strategies for law firms to master cash flow and collections. With years of experience helping businesses recover millions in outstanding invoices, Matt offers a unique perspective on the intersection of accounts receivable management and legal practice operations.

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Episode 57 - Legal Finance 101 with Evan Meyerson of Burford Capital

Posted by Emery Wager on November 13, 2024

In this Financially Legal episode, host Emery Wager interviews Evan Meyerson, Managing Director of Burford Capital, to explore the rapidly evolving world of legal finance. Evan brings a unique blend of legal and venture capital experience, which gives him insight into how litigation funding can transform legal claims into strategic assets for law firms and clients alike.

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Episode 56 - How to Design and Implement Flat Fee Legal Services with John Grant and Elise Buie

Posted by Emery Wager on October 17, 2024

In this Financially Legal episode, host Emery Wager sits down with John Grant, founder of Agile Attorney Consulting, and Elise Buie, founder and managing attorney of Elise Buie Family Law, to discuss how law firms can successfully design and implement flat fee legal services. Both John and Elise bring a wealth of experience and unique perspectives to the table—John from his background in technology and Lean principles, and Elise from her journey of founding a family law firm focused on flexibility, collaboration, and client-centered services.

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Episode 55 - Small Changes, Big Rewards - An Interview with Lawyer & Entrepreneur Gary Allen

Posted by Emery Wager on July 6, 2024

In this Financially Legal episode, host Emery Wager interviewed Gary Allen, who recently retired from a multi-decade legal career. Gary’s extensive experience includes building a million-dollar practice in environmental and land use law at Givens Pursley and co-founding LeanLaw to help other firms operationalize the best practices he learned the hard way.

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Episode 54: Legal Case Management Series – An Interview With Jared Correia, CEO of Red Cave Consulting

Posted by Emery Wager on April 2, 2024

In this special series focused on legal case management software, host Emery Wager explores various case management companies to help firms make informed decisions. In this episode, we welcomed Jared Correia to the first-ever live recording of Financially Legal. Jared, the CEO of Red Cave Consulting and the Cofounder of Gideon Software, shared his experience from helping thousands of law firms choose and successfully implement the right technology. 

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Episode 53: Legal Case Management Series - An Interview with Kimberly Bennett, Cofounder of Fidu

Posted by Emery Wager on January 3, 2024

In this special series focused on legal case management software, host Emery Wager explores various case management companies to help firms make informed decisions. In this episode, we welcome Kim Bennett back to the Financially Legal Podcast. Kim, the Cofounder of Fidu, shares insights into the innovative subscription legal services management platform that is reshaping the relationship between lawyers and clients.

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Episode 52: Legal Case Management Series - An Interview with Dorothy Radke of SimpleLaw

Posted by Dan Lear on November 15, 2023

In this special series focused on legal case management software, host Dan Lear explores various case management companies to help firms make informed decisions. In the latest episode, Dan interviews Dorothy Radke, Director of Strategy and Marketing at SimpleLaw, a cloud-based case management software designed to streamline the complexities of running a law firm. 

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Episode 51: Legal Case Management Series - An Interview with Matt Bright of Intuit QuickBooks

Posted by Dan Lear on October 10, 2023

In this special series focused on legal case management software, host Dan Lear explores various case management companies to help firms make informed decisions. In this episode, host Dan Lear discusses the world of QuickBooks, a cornerstone in both small business and small legal tech ecosystems. This episode features Matt Bright, a Senior Product Specialist at Intuit with 23 years of experience at the company. Together, they shed light on the various ways law firms leverage QuickBooks and how it can revolutionize their financial management.

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Episode 50: Legal Case Management Series - An Interview with Brett Spooner of Clever Case

Posted by Dan Lear on September 18, 2023

In this special series focused on legal case management software, host Dan Lear explores various case management companies to help firms make informed decisions. In this episode, we dive into the world of legal case management software with Clever Case, a tool designed by attorneys for attorneys. Host Dan Lear speaks with Brett Spooner, the CEO and founder of Gravis Law and the founder of Clever Case, to explore the features, target audience, and philosophy behind this innovative case management solution.

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Episode 49: Legal Case Management Series - An Interview with Harsimran Singh of Lawcus

Posted by Dan Lear on August 23, 2023

In this special series focused on legal case management software, host Dan Lear explores various case management companies to help firms make informed decisions. In this episode, Dan speaks with Harsimran Singh, Founder and CEO of Lawcus. Lawcus offers a comprehensive solution, combining legal practice management, client relationship management (CRM), client intake, and no-code automation, all unified in a single platform.

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Episode 48: Legal Case Management Series - An Interview with Dov Slansky of Litify

Posted by Dan Lear on August 9, 2023

In this special series focused on legal case management software, host Dan Lear explores various case management companies to help firms make informed decisions. In this episode, Dan speaks with Dov Slansky, Vice President of Strategy and Innovation at Litify, a legal operating solution that helps law firms, in-house legal departments, and government agencies run smarter.

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Episode 47: Legal Case Management Series - An Interview with Dragana Milovanovic of Matter365

Posted by Dan Lear on July 20, 2023

In this special series focused on legal case management software, host Dan Lear explores various case management companies to help firms make informed decisions. In this episode, Dan speaks with Dragana Milovanovic from Matter365, a user friendly cloud solution that fully integrates all data from Microsoft Office 365 applications into a matter-centric environment. With powerful add on features and Microsoft 365 applications, Matter365 is one of the most comprehensive solutions on the market today.

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Episode 46: Legal Case Management Series - An Interview with Jonathon Fishman, CEO of LeanLaw

Posted by Dan Lear on July 5, 2023

In this special series focused on legal case management software, host Dan Lear explores various case management companies to help firms make informed decisions. In this episode, Jonathon Fishman, CEO of LeanLaw, shares insights about their financial operating system designed for small to medium-sized law firms.

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Episode 45. What does it take to get a collections rate of 95% and how does that intersect with diversity, transparency, and compensation? An interview with Jim Meadows from Culhane Meadows

Posted by Dan Lear on September 7, 2022

How, if at all, do compensation, diversity, and transparency overlap? How can these competing priorities be reconciled? Jim Meadows from Culhane Meadows doesn’t have the perfect answer. But he’s giving it a solid try.

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Episode 44. How do creativity and analytics blend to grow a contingency law firm? An interview with Lynn Bradley from The Potts Law Firm

Posted by Dan Lear on August 24, 2022

Plaintiffs' lawyers are often bold, brash, larger-than-life characters with billboards, regular TV ads, and ambition to match.

But they're also visionary creatives. They excel at building something from nothing and carving out a new and unique path for legal professionals - often where no path existed before. But that creativity needs to be leavened with stability and more strategic thinking. 

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Episode 43. How does your firm limit write downs and write offs? An interview with Kevin Krese from Buckingham, Doolittle & Burroughs

Posted by Dan Lear on August 17, 2022

Two episodes into our four-episode series with law firm CFOs one theme that's emerged is collections. Specifically, how much money lawyers and law firms leave on the table by failing to implement processes that ensure that the firm gets paid for the work it bills out.

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Episode 42. What’s your firm’s “collections calendar?” An interview with Scott Shaffer from Winterfeldt IP Group

Posted by Dan Lear on August 10, 2022

One thing every law firm needs is money. And I don’t think that I’m going out on a limb suggesting that money and financial health are common elements across most successful firms. In this episode, the first of our series of interviews with law firm CFOs, we speak with Scott Shaffer of Winterfeld IP Group. We dig in with Scott on law firm collection rates, collection strategies, whether firms should refer clients to collections agencies, the firm’s tech stack and how it helps facilitate the firm getting paid, Scott's “most important financial metric,” and a bunch more.

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Episode 41. Can offshore virtual staffing help you grow and scale your law firm? An interview with Brett Trembly from Get Staffed Up and Trembly Law Firm

Posted by Dan Lear on March 30, 2022

What’s a lawyer doing running an offshore virtual staffing firm? Starting in 2011 Brett Trembly built a successful business law firm, Trembly Law Firm, in Miami, Florida. They now employ 30+ people and nearly a dozen lawyers. 

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Episode 40. What's a CRM? And what can a law firm do with it? Announcing the Confido Legal/Lawmatics Integration with Matt Spiegel, CEO of Lawmatics

Posted by Dan Lear on March 1, 2022

On this special episode of Financially Legal, we’re announcing the launch of our integration with Lawmatics. Lawmatics is a Legal Intake Solution, Marketing Automation, and Law Firm CRM software all in one. Today they are announcing the launch of their time and billing module with Lawmatics payments powered by Confido Legal.

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Episode 39. Why do lawyers struggle to get paid for the work that they do? Julie Steinbacher from Steinbacher, Goodall & Yurchak and The Million Dollar Solution

Posted by Dan Lear on February 16, 2022

Why do lawyers struggle to get paid for the work that they do? Whether it’s the low collection rates that we see in the Clio Trends Report to lawyers offering too steep a discount, to lawyers refusing to sue their clients, and on and on, “Show me the money” is definitely not the #1 mantra for many of our fellow lawyers.

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Episode 38. What are the roles of financial metrics and your physical workplace in the seven essential parts of a law firm? Interview #4 of 4 with RJon Robins

Posted by Dan Lear on December 8, 2021

In this, the fourth and final installment of our discussions with RJon Robins on the seven essential parts of a law firm, we move to the 5th and 6th essential parts of a law firm: physical plant and financial metrics and controls. The topic of physical plant naturally brings up the question of “whither physical law firms in the time of COVID?” We also discuss how intellectual property may be the most significant way that you can add value to your law firm. We wrap with a discussion of financial metrics and controls and the one metric that you as a law firm should be tracking. We also take a detour and talk briefly about Joe Walsh.

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